Some suggested features from a disappointed new user

27 Okt 2017 08:50 #7 von PW
HI,

first of all I can tell you that I was working more then 35 years together with Graupner and JR Propo and was serveral times in JR Japan factory. So I am very familiar with JR software; I also flew even JR Propo radio at the TOC in Las Vegas.

Perhaps you know that Graupner has a totally own software for their radios; much much more flexible then original JR software. I showed the differences even to top JR pilots like Q. Somenzini or P. Glodsmith in the US at the Tucson Shootout.

User with Graupner software was much more "open" in programming; with JR nit flexible, but totally fix in programming. JR 28 X is better, but as you know JR is history in Japan and there will be no further development with radios, servos etc. So never new software updates for JR 28x.

The Jeti system is absolutly "open system"; you can programm some things in different way. The user can programm nearly individuelly to his references.

For that you have the possibility with 20 flight modes and tons if free mixtures; you are not "fixed" in one menue; for that Jeti decided not to work with fixed menues for "knife edge" or "flap menues". And so far as you see the Jeti family is growing up more and more all over the world.

Of course you must learn the new Jeti programming; for me the same with the first DC-16 prototyp for testing, about 6 years ago even at the beginning without a manual, because prototyp TX.... I remember this time will; having a Graupner MX-24 and some JR radios at home (12x/11x). And YES; at the beginning time I as a little bit frustrated in programming the Jeti. But it was not the programming, but the reason was, that I know for more then 30 years the Graupner and JR progamming style.

After about 10 weeks I was very familiar with the new Jeti programming and today I do not want to have this old Graupner/JR programming back; because Jeti is much much easiere and much more flexible.

This is the way lot of users were going if switching from other radio typs to Jeti. Jeti is like former MPX 4000 programming style and in former times lot of users wants to have his "open MPX 4000 programming style". I well remember lot of discussions with Graupner and JR mamagers like Mr. Mooney Takamura about this; but they decided to work not "open", but with "ready build menues".

It is a question of philosophie.

Today I like the free/open Jeti menue, not having fixed glider menues or so on; but as always: one user likes this, the other not.

To knife edge mixture:

We are flying pattern F3A etc. and here as you know you need some mixtures; also asymetrical. Very easy to set up - even with a "not existing ready knife edge menue".

I will send some more infos the next days for you.

Regards
PW

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27 Okt 2017 15:37 - 27 Okt 2017 15:47 #8 von FuniCapi
Here is a stepwise example solving your knive edge mix problem. There are screen shots attached showing each step.

Enter Menu > Fine Tuning > Free Mixes and press Add.


Set up your mixer and enter Advanced.


Select and enter Curve.


Select Curve type and change to |x|


Select and enter graph of curve.


Select Point 1 or 3 and move up and down to adjust Out value.
Mix Value = Master Value * Out Value
In this example 10% * 100% = 10% for full left rudder and 10% * 50% = 5% for full right rudder.


Check mix in Receiver Output.

Lukas
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27 Okt 2017 16:14 #9 von PW






Here you can see the difference between symetric and asymetric rudder - elevator mix





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31 Okt 2017 22:40 #10 von 185skywagon
Thank you PW and FuniCapi for your tutorials.

PW
Reading your post I think you are right in regards to being used to some certain ways for many years. Now that I know how to program the knife edge a little better I will transfer some models back to the Jeti and give them another go. I think perseverance is the key.

I understand the advantages of having this more "open" programing, though I don't see why its such a big deal to have a couple of these menu's as well,- that is, not being locked into them but use them if you so wish. Just like the couple others already there such as butterfly etc. It would be much better for some of us who are not already experts.

But thanks again for you time and knowledge, I do appreciate it. I will stick to the DS-16 for now and get more used to it.

185

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01 Nov 2017 09:52 #11 von PW
Hallo,

I would suggest "to play with the Jeti" and then you will be very happy and not missing your radio.

How long did you have your old radio ? For sure serveral years; and here you know everything for 100 %. Programming etc. then goes very fast and easy.

With every new radio (different brand) you find start new to learn the programming system /philosophie. That is normal and at the beginning it is not easy.

I am sure that afters some month we will never want to have back your old programming system. I heard that very very often that at the beginning people would like to have back there old programming style, BUT : after some month everyboday said "No, never want to have back the old stuff".

Play and enjoy to radio; take some time to playing around with the TX.

And if any problems: here are lot of friendly users helping you.

Regards
PW

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